Dublin review, a second look – Mayo News Football Podcast 2022 E7

Saturday evening’s five-point win over Dublin wasn’t just Mayo’s second win in a row over Dessie Farrell’s side, it was also the first time in over fifty years that Mayo had beaten Dublin in a League game played in the capital, as well as the first time ever the Green and Red had come out on top in a regulation League match played against them in Dublin. Because of this, it’s a win that’s definitely worth a second look. 

In this episode of the Mayo News Football Podcast, we dive a little more deeply into Mayo’s winning performance at Croke Park on Saturday night. Rob Murphy hosts the show and he’s joined by podcast regulars Edwin McGreal and Stephen Drake. The discussion ranges from Mayo’s direct, free-flowing attack play on Saturday night to how the team lined up in defence. The lads also chat about Diarmuid O’Connor’s superb display, the promising form of Aiden Orme, Jordan Flynn’s kick-passing prowess, Oisin Mullin’s first outing of the year and more.

This episode of the Mayo News football podcast is now online and is available to listen to on iTunes, SoundCloud, Podomatic and Spotify. You can also listen to it directly on the Mayo News website as well as here on the blog using the player below. 

The podcast is on Patreon as well, where club members enjoy exclusive access to bonus episodes and much more besides. The Patreon variant of this episode is an extended one, containing additional discussion at the end which focuses on Aidan O’Shea and Philly McMahon’s pre-match jibes about the team.

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22 thoughts on “Dublin review, a second look – Mayo News Football Podcast 2022 E7

  1. I think it is very misleading to say that Mayo NEVER having beaten Dublin in regulation NFL until last Sunday.
    I may be wrong, but my memory of the National League in its original format is that we would never meet Dublin in regulation NFL. We used to be in a group with Westmeath, Meath, Longford plus a few others. I don’t know how long that went in for.
    But honestly, my hazy memory if NFL matches in my youth were of playing those teams only in the regulation or divisional matches. Am I right.
    So, the narrative that we somehow got beaten by Dublin in regulation NFL matches is misleading and does not represent Mayo’s proud tradition in the NFL.
    In actual fact we were regarded as League specialists right up until the 70s. I think we even led the role of honour up to that point.
    RTÉ irritated me by going on about that in the lead up to the match, and it got under my skin.
    Rant over.

  2. Corrected post
    I think it is very misleading to say that Mayo NEVER beat Dublin in regulation NFL until last Sunday.

    I may be wrong, but my memory of the National League in its original format is that we would NEVER meet Dublin in regulation NFL.

    We used to be in a group with Westmeath, Meath, Longford plus a few others. I don’t know how long that went on for.

    But honestly, my hazy memory of NFL matches in my youth were of only playing those particular teams in the regulation or divisional matches. Am I right?

    So, the narrative – or insinuation – that Mayo somehow got beaten by Dublin regularly in regulation NFL matches is misleading and does not represent Mayo’s proud tradition in the NFL.

    In actual fact we were regarded as League specialists right up until the 70s. I think we even lead the role of honour up to that point.

    Last Sunday, RTÉ irritated me by going on about Mayo never having beaten Dublin in NFL blah, blah blah in the lead up to the match, and it got under my skin big time.

    Rant over.

  3. As one who used that stat repeatedly before and after the Dublin game, I don’t think it’s misleading, though I do get where you’re coming from in terms of League structure in past decades.

    Despite this we played them first in a regulation League game in Dublin as far back as 1935, a game which, of course, we lost. It is true, however, that we only began to play them regularly in the League since the Eighties and, on reflection, it might have been no harm to have entered that caveat when saying we’d never beaten then in Dublin in regulation matches.

  4. I know its one game at a time and all that, but for any non-season ticket holders, I’d highly recommend getting your tickets for Tralee sooner rather than later.

    It’ll definitely be a sellout, and if we hopefully beat Armagh, people will be even more keen to go to Kerry.

  5. Thanks for the podcast, nice to take a second look at it.

    Glad the contributors mentioned Aiden Orme, I thought watching the game back a few days ago, he was the outstanding young player in his overall composure and speed of thought.

    Both Orme and Mullin on separate instances had to free themselves from being surrounded by Dublin players. It takes some skill to get out if that bind and not lose the ball. Tommy Conroy another one who can “eel” his way out of tackles. By contrast some of our other younger players lost the ball a number of times in the tackle.

    Getting out of a tight bind reminded me of the U21 final in 2016, I think it was Michael Plunkett, apparently boxed by 3 Cork players, but got a low ball off to Conor Loftus, who rifled it to the top of the net for Mayo’s third goal.
    So the skill might prove useful someday on the big day, especially near to goal?.
    If you want to indulge, it is around the 36th minute mark in the game in attached tg4 broadcast.
    https://youtu.be/u9hLLQ3_27s 

  6. Good man my left foot, that’s a great video. Some great individual displays there from a number of players, Ruane, Akram, Diarmuid and Irwin were all outstanding that day too, as were a number of others too. Loftus showed his scoring ability that day too, but Irwin was special in how he got his goals that day. He really was a special talent.

  7. Willie Joe. My apologies. You are right. I am wrong.
    I should have looked through your incredible archives before commenting. I see where Dublin did beat us in Croker in the league division stages going back to the 80s. Completely forgot. I suppose, as Mayo supporters, we can tend to have protective amnesia about some of our past failings.
    My memory is also somewhat coloured by the happy memories of the matches in Croker in 70 and 71. That was a bloody great team that never really achieved what it could have done.

  8. No need to apologise, Claremorris 1951 – your point was a valid one, as we didn’t start to play them regularly until the Eighties. Still sweet to beat them up here in their own back yard!

    Apologies, 45 – I questioned who Irwin is and, as FDB has pointed out, it’s Frank. It’s been a long day today …

  9. My Left Foot…….Great observation…….I too enjoyed watching Oisin in trouble at one stage in the match with 4 Dubs surrounding him and his guile and strength in bulldozing his way out of that…..Great moment….

  10. We’ve another podcast episode up tonight! This one’s the Here Comes the Weekend pod for club members on Patreon, with Mike, Billy Joe and Armagh’s All-Ireland winning manager Joe Kernan.

  11. Watched the U21 game My felt foot posted and very exciting game. Although Ruane got MOM for me it was Coen who really played a captain’s part followed by Loftus and then Ruane and Diarmaid. That said all 4 played well. In the back Eoin O’ Donoghue really put Hurley in his pocket, was a great display of defending by him. Here’s hoping he’s back for 2023 after his travels. Hall was being widely touted as a future star for Mayo 3/4 years back but hasn’t materialised, wonder what happened him. Plunkett played well enough also in the game also. A lot to be said for the U21 format, not sure U20 will bring in as many seniors. Had the look of a day Mayo wouldn’t be beaten no matter how well Cork played. We got any luck going with some of our goals but you make your luck, if they found a way of getting ahead I think we’d have somehow found a way to beat them regardless of luck.

  12. It’s nice to see that we’re playing so well as a ‘team’ at the moment despite frequent changes in personnel with each match. Perhaps this is WHY we’re playing so well as a team, ie there’s a prescribed system that each panel member is seamlessly fitting into. However, I’d still be cautious. This is only the league, so, there’s scope now to do as we’re doing. However our main objective should be that by end of league we should know our best 6 starting forwards. There’s still quite a lot of uncertainty from 10-15. Regarding Cillian, we simply can’t say for sure he’ll be fit enough to start come championship, and even if he is, he’s had numerous injuries and has many miles on the clock. Similarly with Jason Doc.

    Diarmuid is nailed on at 11, and Ryan will be one of 3 in FF line. That’s only two certainties really. And let’s not forget our mix at HF last year yielded little or no scores in many matches. Orme’s improving really well incrementaly so he’s another FF option for sure, all things being equal. But after that, it gets more vague. The next four matches will tell a lot.

  13. Another great “Here Comes The Weekend” podcast, Willie Joe. While the regular freely available podcasts are excellent the additional Patreon podcasts go beyond the normal and deliver a different and unique perspective on Mayo football and performance. The latest version with Joe Kernan is a good example. He is a great football man, communicator and very knowledgeable about Mayo football. Really enjoyed the humour and banter he had with Billy Joe and Mike. In the other additional Patreon podcasts I think yourself along with Edwin, Rob and Stephen have delivered forensic analysis both in review and preview sessions. Best of luck with the Patreon project. It is great value for the monthly price of a pint. Needless to say I enjoy the blog and it was all we had for a long time in the pre-podcast world. As I recall Johnno originally saying at the 1989 post Meath match reception in the Malahide Hotel… “Keep the faith” Angus Go nÉirigh leat!???

  14. That was a great day in Ennis for sure.
    Mayo always seem to get a big return from players when we win the U21.
    Goals win matches.
    We got 5 chances and buried them all.
    Sadly we got 5 against Tyrone last year and got none.

  15. Thanks for that feedback, Islander, it’s good to know you’re enjoying it. That episode was in my own earphones on my early morning walk today and I enjoyed it too. Joe – whom I met some years ago after a sponsored cycle from Vincents up to Crossmaglen (led by Brian Mullins, another man with plenty of war stories) – is a great man for a yarn and Billie Joe’s unique insight into both counties worked very well on the chat. As for Mike’s little book of contacts – he keeps coming up trumps, week after week!

  16. Do children need tickets for the game tomorrow? They didn’t in clones but did last week. If they do, how do I buy them as I can only buy an adult ticket

  17. Thanks my left foot, watched the full 2016 final there again. I was on my honeymoon back then an wasn’t able to get the game anywhere in Northern Spain that time, although I have watched it all since. Jeez we got some great players from that side migrating to senior level. DO’C was so good that day, as was Conor, Sharoize, Stephen, Michael H and big Liam up front, and a few more. In fact while watching I had the feeling too that we were never gonna lose. Ennis has been a happy hunting ground for us, I was there when we beat Cork in ’06 too (what a game of two halves that was!), an we recruited a few gems from that side too.
    Good luck to our lads in the Hyde tomorrow.. It’s nice to be able to ‘farm’ our youngsters out to the in laws for a few hours an head east to the game, an meet up with some fellow Mayo fanatics!
    Enjoy the day folks.. Up Mayo!

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