Two changes in team for Sunday’s final

Willie Joe

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I think we were all expecting it to happen in the morning but, just as I was getting ready to turn in for the night a short while ago, I saw that the team announcement for Sunday had already been made. Here, then, is the team for Sunday’s Connacht final:

Mayo (Connacht SFC final v Sligo, 19/7/2015): David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites); Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis, captain); Lee Keegan (Westport), Tom Cunniffe (Castlebar Mitchels), Colm Boyle (Davitts); Seamus O’Shea (Breaffy), Tom Parsons (Charlestown Sarsfields); Diarmuid O’Connor (Ballintubber), Aidan O’Shea (Breaffy), Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore); Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen), Cillian O’Connor (Ballintubber), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole).

So it’s two changes from the side that started in the semi-final against Galway. Out go the injured Kevin Keane and Chris Barrett, in come Ger Cafferkey and Donal Vaughan.  We haven’t named the subs list at this stage.

82 thoughts on “Two changes in team for Sunday’s final”

  1. Fair enough.Will hardly line out like that and maybe changes in personnel before game too.
    Would like to have seen Ronaldson start but as I said before (and Sean Burke and others too) we simply must get a good performance and there should be quite a few in it at end.
    If we cant break Sligo defence we wont break Donegal or Monaghan.
    This should be convincing and a point or two then we would be better off forgetting about AI.

  2. Should be well capable of putting in a strong performance and winning by a convincing margin

  3. No surprises with it. Vaughan looked like he was flying when he was introduced in Salthill. Barrett did very well that day too so it was always going to be a toss-up between them. It’s mighty to have a player like Barrett on bench when we know he’s in decent form. Vaughan is a potential game changer though.
    I feel for K. Keane. Hope the injury is minor and we see him back soon. I must say it’s great to see Ger Caff on starting 15 again. I had hoped earlier in the year that this would be the case come C’ship.

  4. It’s a fair enough looking team and then consider the bench, freeman, Mickey c, regan and you can see that Sligo will have their hands full to hold them.
    I heard or seen that Jason gibbons is another man that may be drafted to the panel, not much wrong with that strenght in depth.

  5. That’s a strong team.. I see there sticking with Clarkey in goals.. With all the chopping and change in the league I was wondering would they ever be able to choose.. seems they have now..

  6. Mayo did alot of experimenting during the FBD and league but the end result is sticking with the tried and trusted for the championship. A team Horan would likely pick but now under the guidance of new management.

    That starting 15 should have too much experience for Sligo but the main questions shall be answered later this summer.

  7. Best of luck to the starting 15 and to all of the squad members as well as the management and back room team. Hopefully by Sunday evening these lads will be history makers!

    Its great to see Ger Caff back again, he seemed to be carrying an injury for a lot of last season so touch wood, he will stay injury free this year. Hard luck to Kevin Keane, hopefully his injury is not too bad. Its good to see that the the old reliables have been restored in the half-back line, Keegan, Vaughan and Boyle (assuming thats the way the team will line-up with Cunniffe at corner-back), it shows that things are getting serious now! Chris Barrett is a great back-up player to have as well. Its Diarmuid O’Connor’s first senior final start so best wishes to him too. Roll on the game…

  9. Hard to look beyond Vaughan when he’s going well. Such a dynamic ball carrier and can do it for the full seventy minutes. Barrett is unlucky to be the one to lose out though, didn’t do a whole lot wrong in the last game. Cunniffe struggled for large spells on Comer.

  11. If you are asking me about the personnel fair enough, though Caff for Barrett hard to justify. But are we going with these positions? And if not why go on with the charade?

  13. Can’t see us lining out in that order, Vaughan at FB? Positions mean nothing anymore.
    Very little in the online editions of the papers today. With the Munster final replay on the Connacht final has been forgotten.

  14. Happy enough with that team. Should have enough in the tank to beat Sligo. Would like to see them going defensive in second half, if they have a 6 point plus lead with 15-20 minutes left and test their blanket system.

  15. Its Diarmuid O’Connor’s first Senior Connacht Final start so best of luck to him in that regard, I wonder is it Tom Parsons first one as well?

  16. I wouldn’t like to see us go defensive at any stage against Sligo, you’re asking for trouble. We should be looking to put up a good score and keep the tempo up.

  17. As regards closing out the game i think we did well the last day against galway.
    I think there was only one point scored in the last 12 minutes,and Keegans tom foolery at the end was like pay back time for many occasions the same was done to ourselves.

  19. I can see Donie going to six, Barrett in and caff going to 3. Need good man markers for that sligo FF line. Snuff that out and we’re almost home. Can’t see scores coming from anywhere else.

  20. Thanks WJ, best of luck to Tom, it would be great to see him play well too. The Sligo midfield pairing are very mobile so it should be a good test for him.

  21. As strong a team as we can line out! We have far to strong middle third for Sligo to go orthodox there so can see them trying to avoid kicking it there, id say Vaughan at cb taking on Brehony, caff will battle it out with Hughes, and so on…. Forwards we are looking very strong, providing all keep injury free, should have plenty opportunity to score, Be interesting to see the subs bench!

  23. Will we have enough coming in off the bench between O’connor’s injury and parsons shoulder . Still I think we’re well capable of topping the yeats county and claiming 5 in a row . Maigh Eo Abu come on the yew .

  24. He did, Mayo/Meath man, but the question was whether or not it was Diarmuid’s first provincial final start, which it is. Sure, the poor old Rossies haven’t been in a Connacht final since 2011!

  25. Happy enough with that so long a Donie played at CHB not FB with Turbo back in Corner and Caff who is joint best with Keane in FB position. Alternatively Donie swap with Caff but prefer his mobility out in HB line. Bit disappointed no sweeper plan evident as we’ll need a very good defensive strategy should we progress. Our bench should be too strong for Sligo if the game is in the melting pot.

  26. I’d like to see Caff play at corner back as named because I think it’s his best position.

  27. …Delighted to see Andy start as he’s a very good ball winner once he gets in front nearly always wins the ball and lighter lads left for when teams start to puff. Looks like Andy has good shooting boots this year too, here’s hoping.

  28. Drog I would agree with you if Keane was playing as we groomed him all league and want to see if he’s also good there in championship. Turbo couldn’t handle Comer until Galway stupidly moved him or let him out the field so I’d rule him out as FB leaving just Donie and IMO you don’t get the use of his engine in FB unless marking a forward who runs all over the pitch. Caff could be very good CB but he is experienced FB. Also we see good fielding from Donie when not up against midfielders as in league experiment so he would probably not handle a Donaghy or Tommy Walsh that we’ll although Sligo have no one in that mould.

  30. Pretty much no full back can handle Comer. Has all the physical attributes to be a Michael Murphy type figure. Skillwise great hands and a decent shooter. Wouldn’t rule out a sweeper yet. Could be lots of switches and Sligo will only play few forwards up.
    Diarmuid OConnor by the way is immense defensively. Tracks very concentrated, disciplined tackler and has two goal saving blocks this year. Playing and watching I loved blocks. Very difficult skill.

  33. There was no way Clarke wasnt going to start. It’s a hugely important position form the view of communication and trust in defence.

    I too would have liked to see Ronnie get a start but hopefully he will get some decent game time. He is an intelligent player and can score. The Doc when he started was bagging goals for fun in the league a few years ago but has developed more into a wing forward type – good at winning breaks and can pop up for a score or two.

    Anyway – Sunday will be interesting. Sligo go in with nothing to lose which is dangerous from our perspective.They are a tricky team.

    Weather for Sunday doesn’t look great. Sure it’s always feckn raining in the hyde.

  34. Agree totally about Clarke…. he had to start …. he commands the defence, is better under the high ball and is just an all-round better keeper….

    I think management are thinking about the bigger picture ……………..The big guns targeting the full back line with high balls in croker, he offers a kind of sweeper

  35. Hi, i’ll stick my neck out and hppe Don Vaughan starts as FB. No, i wasn`t spying on the training. Maybe good practice to. play Sweeper’s role later. Of course Caff will be close by. Tom Cunniffe is also a lovely sight to see going forward and seems to be free from injury. Who knows maybe Vaughan might be a key man in the role you all seem to think se need?

    Apart from that just looking forward to see how many goals our forwards score. I am predicting 4 and hopefully about 14 points. Of course it is not tbe most important aspect of the game as it would be nice to give some of the ‘B’ team some game time. Must admit a wet Hyde Park is not nice.
    Just one negative and that is would have liked Rob Hennelly to have his turn especially in Ros. Maybe that is just sentimental history. Ciaran 2

  37. I agree that Clarke is a better all round keeper but I think that Hennelly’s kickouts are miles better.

  38. I know I’m like a broken record but I feel like bringing a bit of balance to the last few comments. Hennelly is without doubt the better keeper. Again I can’t see Clarke letting us down and C&H obviously prefer Clarke at the minute, but Hennelly is far superior.

    Pity about Keane. Glad Vaughan is back in the team, great guy to create an overlap/goal chance. Good to see Andy starting as well, I’d say he is up their with Cillian, if not better, as our best scorer from play since 2011.

  39. There’s not much between Clarke and Hennelly, we’re lucky to have 2 of the top keepers in the country.

    But Clarke deserves to keep his place.
    Some have blamed him for the 2nd Galway goal, but that was just general rank bad defending on our part. It was the type of goal any well organised defence just shouldn’t concede.
    As has been mentioned, I think a lot of us just feel more comfortable when Clarke is there and high balls are raining down on us.
    The one negative I always saw in Clarke was his kicking accuracy, long balls launced straight down the middle. That’s an area he seems to have improved on greatly.

    As for putting Hennelly in anyway, just for this game – the goalkeeper is not a position to be rotated. We need one man here, at the very least just to build up an understanding with the backs.
    We need a nailed on no.1, Clarke is the man right now. But it can only be healthy knowing that he has serious competition for his place.

  41. Disappointed Hennelly not starting. Much better keeper, different league altogether kick out wise, this is a big step backwards imo.

    We are going to struggle against established midfielders because Clarke’s distribution is slow and his long kick outs come down with snow on them (and ten opponents waiting for them).

    It’s obvious H&C want to look like they are making changes but I felt one of our strengths was Hennelly’s distribution and shot stopping and Caff’s mobility and tight man marking.

  42. I see Galway bay radio are stiil advertising tickets for Sunday, I don’t think its going to be a sell out, poor weather promised as well as a poor view from Hyde park Terracing are putting people off travelling espeacially as the game is on live tv .

    Best of luck to the Mayo senior team they are our sole survivors to represent the county colors looking forward to a trip to Croker if we make it . Mayo to win by 6 pts

  43. If David Clarke or Robbie Hennelly were in any other county in Connacht, and most other counties in Ireland, they’d be absolute number one. So would Kenneth O’Malley who isn’t even on the panel.
    Clarke will not let Mayo down but I think Hennelly is the much better all round keeper. He’s a better shot stopper (both are top class in this regard), Clarke might be better in the air (though not as incredible as some make him out to be, he rarely catches a ball over his head) but the kick outs is the key facet for goalkeeping nowadays and Hennelly’s are so much better than Clarke in my opinion. They are more accurate and have a better trajectory for our fielders. Hennelly will be able to find a runner 60m away in Croker, Clarke won’t. But it looks like the two boys are placing their faith in Clarke.

    I think Chris Barrett is very unlucky not to start. I’d have him before Tom Cunniffe.

  44. I think that’s the best back 6 we have fielded in long time. Some physical strength and power to it.
    I would like them to lineup as pick be interesting.

    I think the logic with Vaughan at fullback is Sligo will pull out one of full forward line and try to leave space so who better to have mopping up and starting attacks than Vaughan playing the free role.
    From fullback he can create overlap runs etc and his long range distribution to full forward line will also be a positive.
    I believe he will have more of a frank mc Glynn role from 2013 rather than an outright fullback role.

    I don’t understand all this talk of Henley being gods gift to kick outs. Remember it was his kick out out over the end line which setup Kerry against us in both the drawn and lost matches.
    I like Hennelly and don’t want to be faulting him but Clarke is better in my opinion.

  45. Absolute Rubbish about Hennelly – he cost us two big games Dublin 2013 and Kerry in Croke Park last year

    In fairness his kickouts are better but that’s it

  46. D. Clarke will have had plenty of time to work on his kick-out strategy. Donal Vaughan at full-back might be interesting – especially if up against some large opposition – and he is great going forward. He is capable of inspiring scores, and his accuracy might have improved as well.
    A. O’Shea is a source of some concern: for how long can we reasonably expect him to play his heart out and take endless punishment, without some price to be paid?

  47. I despair for the future of this cycle. New management have forgotten everything and learned nothing. Now we have two menin the full-back who are incapable of contesting primary possession with an immediate opponent. I have never seen either outfield an opponent or even field a ball above shoulder height. I have seen both taken to the cleaners defensively on numerous occasions. Even with those defensive limitations I still expect a win on Sunday and luck may get us to the semi-final, but with this type of thinking that will be the end of the line.

  48. Biggest part of goalkeeping in the modern game is kickouts – Hennelly is simple better than Clarke. Won’t make a difference at Sligo, but against the other top team will be a big differences. Cluxton practically won the game for Dublin in the 2013 All Ireland. Poor call by C&H. Also, would like to have seen Moran on the bench with Ronaldson starting. Tom C will play in full back line, with Vaughan to half back line.

  49. I simply cannot understand where this notion has appeared from that Robbie is better at kickouts than David Clarke. All last year, and especially down in Limerick, almost every single restart Robbie made was boomed out high and long, right down the middle. It was the same again in the League matches he played this year. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good keeper, they both are (as is Kenneth O’Malley), but I’m afraid this proposition that Robbie has better and more varied kickouts is simply at odds with the evidence. In contrast, David Clarke – who used to bang them all out long and high – has developed way more variety in this area more recently and I’d argue that picking him is the smarter option for now.

  51. I think you’re right wj Clarke better and if a big man like donaghy is sitting on square hell come out and be a better option. Also lads asking why wasn’t Ronaldson starting. He got pushed off like a rag doll too easily in front of stand vs galway and you couldn’t really imagine him against the big 4s backs physically I’m afraid. Well have a tough test sunday but big display needed as business end from now on.

  52. Clarke has hugely increased his ability to mix up the play with his kick-outs but he cannot find a runner in distance as well as Hennelly. With regard to Limerick, I did not see much movement out the field either. Goalkeepers, both Clarke and Hennelly, are only as good as the movement outfield when it comes to kick-outs. Clarke took a lot of successful short kick-outs v Tyrone in this year’s league but that’s easier done when the opposition effectively concedes kick-outs in order to get bodies back. But Clarke did kick out well against Galway last time out. Both are top level keepers but Hennelly is a much better man for kick outs in my opinion. We will be much clearer on this in Croke Park and if I’m wrong, I’ll hold my hands up. I remain unconvinced for now.

  53. We’ve come to realise how crucial this position is and our expectations have grown accordingly.. for a goal keeper to be slightly better at one facet of the game is not enough.. he has to be an all rounder.. I’m still not convinced by either yet but then we’ve played so few games.. hope Clarkey has a stormer.. is it Sunday yet?

  54. I believe WJ is right in his comments in relation to kick outs. Hennelly is extremely fond of booming it long withoutout any great thought. He’s a great shot stopper but length is his priorotiy.

  55. That reminds me, when Andy Moran scored ‘that’ point from near the sideline agauinst Galway, everybody seemed to think it was a ‘fluke’ and didn’t mean it. Couldn’t believe what I was hearing.
    I then saw a video of him scoring from the same position in training. I erckon he’s back to his best form this year.

  57. I reckon you’re right, Erris Head – Andy really looked up for it in Salthill and it was a pity that he got that knock so early (it was the first ball into him when it happened, I think). Feeding off Aidan’s ball-winning ability, Andy can perform that ‘shooter’ role to perfection and I hope we’ll see an eye-opening performance from him in this regard on Sunday.

  58. When he’s been match fit Andys accuracy has been excellent. Andy is a great example of the power of steady improvement. Club managers should use him as an example. Fierce positive as well, definitely would have kept everyones spirits higher. If he can shoot well this Sunday could be some consistent form ahead for him.

  59. Think Andy went for the score actually – saw it replayed later that night.
    I notice very few backs can get a block down against him. He tends to turn and shoot v quickly.
    Interesting to think about our ‘B’ team (alternative 15 lads not named) :
    R Hennelly, C Barrett, K Keane, S McHale, D Drake, S Coen, P Durcan, J Gibbons, B Moran, A Dillon, D Kirby, M Ronaldson, E Regan, Freeman, M Conroy.

  60. Unlike Kerry or Dublin few game changers on that B team sawdoc. The starting 15 Sunday probably the strongest Mayo team.

  61. I saw Andy kick 2 points in a club game back in May that were damn near at the same angle as that point in Salthill. If he meant to pass or point that score, only he knows, but there is no doubt he is capable of scoring from such tight spots.

  62. WJ I’ve said it before, the reason Rob is better at kick-outs is he is lighter on his feet and a more natural kicker than Clarke. As mentioned above, Rob mainly going long in Limerick last year was because of a general lack of movement out the field, and he still aimed for the Mayo man even if he went long. I don’t mind either keeper going long when they have to (Cluxton has to do it too) but Clarke’s kickouts come down with snow on them when he goes long and it’s harder for the Mayoman to win it.

    I actually think Hennelly is a better shot-stopper too, and there’s nothing much between them in terms of being comfortable under a high ball. Anyway, I’ve said enough on this subject for now.

    Agreed Andy Moran is in great form, hopefully he is fully fit for Sunday.

  63. @PK

    Cant agree about Ronaldson.He was excellent against Galway after a somewhat shaky first few minutes.His pace added hugely to Mayo attack and Galway were put off by it.
    I can see why he is not starting but I hope he gets his chance.
    I think Midfield will be crucial.Sligo will try to bypass so our lads must adapt.
    Vaughan wont be full back for long if at all.

  64. Quite happy with the team named.
    That B team named above by SawDoc shows just how strong we really are.
    This is one game we just need to get out of the way efficiently & without cost.
    Sligo will arrive pumped up for this so we need to deflate the balloon early.
    Hoping to see us really push up on their kickouts .
    Agree that Andy Moran looked sharp & really up for it the last day …. could be a big plus for us this year.
    I do have a concern about the long term injury to Cillian which I thought compromised our long range free taking the last day … hope I’m proved wrong about this … as this is something we’re going to need at the business end.

  65. I think I’ve said enough on it too at this stage, GBXI, and I don’t want to dump on Robbie either. I think we’re fortunate to have so many options between the sticks – one things for sure, Dublin wouldn’t have got near the All-Ireland final, let alone win it, in 2013 if they’d had to call on a third-choice keeper in the middle of that summer.

  66. But Hennelly continued to go long down the middle feeding Moran and Maher, he had teh opprtunity to vary it but couldnt think on the spot so dont agree his kickouts or thinking on his feet is superior to Clarke.
    Clarke has more of an air of authority about him , more motivational, in my opinion than Robbie who is a super shot stopper but does lack authority about his square .

    Anyways we have great options in goal so moving on I just hope Tom C or Caff arent left with an ocean of space in a 2 man full back line marking speed merchants in Kelly and Marren .
    If so they will be skint, not because they are bad players or the likes but the sligo boys are so fast and nimble anyone would struggle with them .

    Play to our strenghts, play Vaughan fullback, let him tidy up there as the sweeper, start attacks, create overlap etc, cover house for Higgins going forward.

    In Caff, Vaughan and Higgins we have three defenders will to attack the ball and more than capable of winning it on font but also the three are great tacklers and stand their men up allowing extra help to get in and make tackles.
    I would like to see them tried out as I thin they are the best fullback line for the open spaces of Croker .
    Caff and Vaughan are smart and more than capable of breaking the ball for Higgins to mop up.

    Halfback line should be liberated if we do play that fullback line .
    I would give Keegan back his licence to go forward, Tell Tom C to sit and tidy broken ball as well as shoring up the middle and distrubing a few heavy shoulders and tackles.
    Boyler in my opinion should be more restricted to defensive duties than Keegan and should play his normal game without being excessively attacking .

    Agin this Sunday we will probably get away with Boyler playing on their 40 but thats no benefit to us late in the year .

    Tom Parsons and Seamie is a great mobile partnership but for me they havent rightly clicked yet so hopefully with the extra gametime they have had together they will form a better partnership, every thing they done individually is great but working as a unit needs some work I think .

    Halfforward line is a workman like line and we may need a little more inspiration to get scores by that I see JAson Doh going out to 11 and ten we have a great ball winning and tackling unit but not alot of imagination .
    I would have loved to see Conor Loftus get a start, this lad is the real deal .
    Just hope that when , we do go to the bench for more creativity that he doesnt go for Dillion .
    All due respect to Dillon but we know what he can do, if you dont give Loftus, Sweeney or Ronaldson game time in Connacht you cant go calling on them for games against Dubs etc .

    Fullforward line looks strong as said before Andy is hitting form, Cillian is marquee and Aido isnt too far off being a marquee 14 either .

  67. Clarke is a way better keeper in my opinion, the speed of his restarts are much faster, thereby giving opposition less time to regroup. Hennelly hasn’t got a short kick out option, which means the opposition can focus on breaks in the middle more. On sunday Clarke will have the kick out taken and a mayo back will be galloping down the field before Sligo and many of our own supporters will know whats happening.

  68. Can we agree to disagree on the keepers….its beginning to sound like Keane vs McCarthy!

  69. Agree with posters on Andy’s point and I have commented on this before.

    If Cooper, or O’Donoghue, or Saint Bernard, kicked that point we would be hearing about it for the rest of the year: marvellous exhibition…sublime shot…the way it should be done…can’t teach these skills…only Kerry…only Dublin.

    Instead, what did we hear?: Mayo…over-reliant on Cillian O’Connor…no scoring forwards…Andy meant that as a cross Marty (Tommy Carr, no less, correcting the over-excited Marty)…Mayo have no marquee forwards…

    And so on. Andy scored a near impossible point; therefore it must be impossible because it was scored by Andy, not some genius we all defer to.

  71. Last I’m saying on this, to say Hennelly cost us any game is a disgrace. He saved a peno in Connacht final last year that was right in the corner, with Galway 4 points down and all the momentum. He cost us AI Final against Dubs? Granted Brogans goal was a judgement call but Cafferky could have done better. He made four or five outrageous saves during that game, more than any keeper all year in Champo. The one where O’Gara was straight through and he got his hand over his head comes to mind, but also against Brogan and Paul Flynn. He did play long ball against Limerick but that clearly was the strategy, Kerry were pushing up on the short ones, as we saw when they smothered Donegal’s kickouts and won AI because of it. Horan never implemented the short KO strartegy, to our detriment in some cases. Last I’m saying on this, time will tell and I hope ultimately we do the biz but I think it’s a step back.

    Also agree with some posters that I would like to see Ronaldson in for a look, we know what Andy offers and he could be a great tool off bench if Ron not effective, Sunday is prob our last chance to experiment

  72. Galway were 8 points down and the game was over, PJB. They didn’t have any momentum at that point, the game was into its last 10 minutes.

    It was a great save but let’s keep to the facts.

  73. I’m pretty sure Andy went for that point – I’ve seen him score from tight angles before, there’s one that sticks out in my mind that he scored into the Canal end of Croke Park from a similar angle – can’t remember against whom or when though.

    Catcol is spot on here – were it Brogan, Gooch or O’Donoghue, we’d be hearing how much it is a pleasure to watch them and sure it’s a foregone conclusion etc, he’d meant it and scored it etc.

    Anyway – we’ve named our best 15 from what I can see so we’re taking the Magpies seriously. I don’t see us dishing out a hammering and from checking Paddy Power, Sligo are +6 at odds of 6/5. That looks like decent odds to me and if I didn’t have a rule about betting on Games where Mayo are involved, I’d be sticking a few quid on that.
    I might even break my rule, sure if I lose the money I’d be happy with the result anyway.

  74. It’s Sligo +7 now, was +6 up to yesterday. I’m guessing a lot of money gone onto Mayo at -6

  76. I blame our goalie for the 2012 loss.He should have taken both Brogan &his marker out of it for the first goal— it was a game changer. Granted he played well after

  79. Jr you’re right about taking man and ball though I agree. It’s something a keeper must do when someone is hovering in square

  80. On that basis we have come to the conclusion that Clarke is by far the correct choice

  81. would agree with ballaghman , given or history of teams trying to exploit our full back line , Clarke is the better option

  82. Survived the Westportif! Weather worse than brutal, almost incessant rain and high winds. Mountainy bit at the end closed off due to weather so came back via Leenane instead. 152km in total and the legs know all about it now.

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